흄에 유리한쪽으로만 업뎃 하나요 GM분안계신가요 칸은하지말란소리인가요
모든클래스 스킬 예전되로 돌려주시는게 맞을듯요 ㅎㅎ

흄에 유리한쪽으로만 업뎃 하나요 한국 GM분안계신가요 칸은하지말란소리인가요
모든클래스 스킬 예전되로 돌려주시는게 맞을듯요 ㅎㅎ

Iceproof/antidote is just another way of making money for ROW. The ice skill for mage should never have been nerfed to begin with. By introducing iceproof you will make KR even weaker by making sorc even more useless than it already is.

My suggestion instead of introducing all these new items just make rot and ice break through flex and mana cell. How it was suppose to be originally

Flexibility compared to Mana cell in my opinion is already bullshit. Flex is click of a button vs charge time for mana cell.

찬성

ceproof / antidote는 ROW를 위해 돈을 버는 또 다른 방법입니다. 마법사의 얼음 스킬은 처음부터 너프 된 적이 없었어야합니다. iceproof를 도입하면 sorc를 기존보다 더 쓸모 없게 만들어 KR을 더욱 약하게 만들 수 있습니다.


제 생각에 마나 세포에 비해 유연성은 이미 헛소리입니다. Flex는 버튼 클릭 대 마나 셀 충전 시간입니다.

Cleric's stun is OP. It should be nerve to single target which same with life's stun. Moreover, the radius of cleric's stun is quite wide. I wish it could be nerve and be a fair game where soonest possible.

Flexibility compared to Mana cell in my opinion is already bullshit. Flex is click of a button vs charge time for mana cell.
- good u understand this very well so my question for u is below
1. Cleric/Priest stun insta vs casting MK life ? KR 2 char insta stun MK 1 char casting and 3-0 aoe area limited AOE
2. mk Officer Debuf insta debuff with duration 1-2 minute cd ? 1 target only vs Chanter with unlimited debuff and Aoe with casting + lock+poison+debuff
3. Priest BA with 700 armor + shield but mk only 577 for 8 minute regreat ur MP
4. warrior with shield +1khp custome
5. Sin vs Shadow with pumml and debuff
6. deffender with flexibility skill +jump vs Dumb templar ?
and u say all still not enuf and need more power . pls cry
from akkan

@supportrune both have their pros and con. Life can stun from a distance vs cleric need to run in without good items you will die before you even reach the mks party.

Make shackel can break manashell.
Make lifeoff stun as same as cle.. not targeting and wide

Overall I think this should be good for both sides at least no more evading a 4.6 skill.

Make shackle effect slow instead of bind and fireball effect poison.
That seem good to make the balance between both mage nation.

@jacky
1. Priest is no instant stun
2. MK can get extra DD in pt while AOE debuff
3. Priest BA is not AOE like templar and MK also can get extra DD in PT
4. Attacker AOE damage basically like a combo between defender+ warrior and also can drain life
5. Both have pros and cons
6. I don't understand what you mean what's flexibility skill+ jump

@rubyspear make sorc ice and shackel both bypass mana cell and flex like before.

@shasher that's super unfair for KR if that's the case.

1. 사제는 즉시 기절하지 않습니다.
2. MK는 AOE 디버프 동안 추가 DD를 얻을 수 있습니다.
3. 사제 BA는 템플러와 같은 AOE가 아니며 MK도 PT에서 추가 DD를 얻을 수 있습니다.
4. 공격자 AOE 데미지는 기본적으로 수비수 + 전사 간의 콤보처럼 생명력을 빼앗을 수 있습니다.
5. 둘 다 장단점이있다
6. 유연성 스킬 + 점프가 뭔지 이해가 안 돼요

@rubyspear는 sorc ice와 shackel을 이전과 같이 마나 셀을 우회하고 플렉스합니다.

@shasher 그게 사실이라면 KR에게는 매우 불공평합니다.

@letfar I don't agreed with your statement. Since KR cleric's stun with wide radius, it is much different with MK life's stun. Furthermore, the main point which i want to raise up is KR cleric's AOE stun can hold an wide area, it could be 10, 20 or more MK at the same time, but unfortunately MK life's stun only for single target.

i hope u fix about sorc .. as u see Kr less sorc coz not much skill work !

for ppl who talk about cle and pri ..already before mk quit war coz stun of cle and GM work of that make it less time and now at war as u can see we cant have fun only stun from life + rune .. Camp 1

shadow rune and life can remove buff .. Kr only enh !

KR need more ppl for more other class not like mk ..

life = cle +pri
run = sorc enh ...
show can remove buff but sin no ..

shadow *

I've seen this topic since i play ryl1 2005 when it was Pay to Play. Already 15 year passed. Never Ending this topic. Just Bring back rune shackle penetrate block and ice skill penetrate flexibility.

For those who want to play, just face it. If dont like then retired.

@supportrune i think there's no point discussing cleric vs life. I personally believe both have pros and cons. But having 4.6 skill for sorc get evaded ive always said its fkn bullshit. You can also argue kr is hard to form 1 full pt lack too many classes. Compared to mk pt can have two aura but for kr its pretty much impossible there's no need for 2 priest in 1 pt.

@hailmiee i agree, this is why having ice proof is destroying sorc community even more.

Instead of that you should introduce pill to unstun now that should get interesting.

@letfar come on dude. don't make it complicated, i was question issues of KR cleric vs MK life, but u bring forward the whole game issues. So when we have conclusion?

@supportrune the confusion is no i dont think you should change life stun to cleric because this will make Mk skills even more imbalance. I also dont agree with having iceproof because it will make sorc class even less popular than it already is. I suggest make it back to original shackle and ice both breakmana cell and flex

Make shackel can break manashell (3.0+). Ice can break evade too (3.0+)
its okie

@letfar A very reluctant answer. no point to discuss with you because you more on KR side. Wish you to use more money to enjoy the GM, and he will make you happy too.

@supportrune I don't see any point of discussing with you too because we both divided views on it. I don't think it's fair but you think otherwise. Good luck enjoy the game while it lasts.

1. Priest is no instant stun ok im wrong so u mean Cleric is OP correct me.
2. MK can get extra DD in pt while AOE debuff - i dont understand ? clarify me.
3. Priest BA is not AOE like templar and MK also can get extra DD in PT- mk dont mind to cast 1 on 1 with same statt and dura
4. Attacker AOE damage basically like a combo between defender+ warrior and also can drain life- did u play att on war drain life for how much ?
5. Both have pros and cons
6. I don't understand what you mean what's flexibility skill+ jump - deffender flexi skill on1 hit each skill. tempalr chain 4 hit which can be canceled due stun or lock. understand

I totally disagree of iceproof.. sorcerer will be more useless in war..
templar or attacker have rage at all so when they wise using that skill it is enough..

better u make new skill for sin, only can do boom and detect at war. it is totally different with shadow who can dispel or something..

Make priest can activate rage and def aura same time and cap the aura to a certain amount.

yah plz GM look to sorc realy so useless .Kr need at pt 2 cle 1 pri tract 1 pri rage ! and not all have super items ! use S itms for only heal = easy die . sorc only for call !! .. if pt get sorc it is hard for attack coz no enh for help buff +remove buff mk + weaken ! war night again Kr quit it slow only 40x vs 60 MK ... Mk cant in for play + Kr no need play that war for much stun = boring no fun !


I HOPE GM BACK ICE SKILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Survey about the Antidote:

Post of Survey about the Antidote

Survey about the Antidote is what??

If tell about Priest i think we should make Priest can Stealth and can buff chanter la. Ah also can TS better. Use Staff also for fun.

And and and... lol.

Tell about Survey about the Antidote pls

I agree with this. open Ice skills 4.0 to penetrate the flexibility and having a iceproof pills however put it in the medal store also.

brainless thork :) drunk always

@adidass

he noise always talking alot bla bla bla .

As usual babythork with the deepthroat.

아칸이 3년간 고생해온건 맞지만 현시점에서 소서의 패치를 해야하는게 맞습니다
필드에서나 석쟁에서나 휴먼이 밀리고있는상황
지속적인 아칸유저들의 건의로 소서가 너프되고 어태커가 상향되며
너프된 소서유저는 수가 줄어들며 반대로 어태커의 수가늘어남
필드에선 어태커와 룬이 단일로 뒤치기를 돌며 파티를 박살낼수있는 상황이 나오기시작하며, 석쟁역시 단일캐릭이 강해 조합을 구성하기 좋은 아칸이 우위를 점한지오래가 되었습니다.
초기설정을 가지고 논하기 보다는 현시점에 맞는 패치를 해야한다고 생각하며 소서의 버프는 현시점에서 필요한 상황입니다.
알약의 쿨타임이나 효과가 어떻게 지속될진모르겠지만 우선 새로운 패치에 찬성합니다.

I think iceproof pill is good idea

Dog Thork English still very good !!!!

Btw , what the fuck your are saying ?

4-0이 아니라 4-6으로 캐스팅 했을 때만 뚫리게 바꿔야지 4-0이면 전부 올콘 소서 하라는 건가?

아칸이 3년 고생한거? 휴먼 반년도 고생안했는데 저런 패치를 해줘야하나?

아이스가 문제가 아니라 올콘 소서가 문제인거다 운영자야 ㅋㅋ

제대로 알지도 못하면서 반년 당한 휴먼들이 징징거리니 은근슬쩍 아이스 풀어줄라고 하는거 같은데 아이스 풀어주는 순간 아칸은 접는다.

이 사실 제대로 알고 추진해라 운영자야

수고하십니다.
각진영에 cure 포션 생성은 찬성합니다.
포션 생성이 되면 격수가 유리한 상황이 오게 되므로
메이지 룬계열의 마법은 마나셀 플렉에 영향없이
효과 적용되어야 한다고 생각합니다.

이 똘빡 운영진아 . 돈버는데만 눈이 돌아가지고. 포션장사해서 월급벌라고? 요새 겜이 재미없으니깐 유저도 떠나가고 소펀도 안팔리지?
재미없는 스턴게임 만드니까 이모양 이꼴 되서
뒷선에 있어야할 법사/힐러/룬이 앞선에 나와 스턴/그리스/포이즌 날려대지.

근본적인 대책좀 세우라니깐. 대가리가 안돌아가면 한국까페와서 도와달라하던가.

명성 타워도 5개씩 만들어서 인원 분산되게 쟁을 만들던가.
허구한날 미드 캠사움만 유도하고 렙은 93고정이니 타워 깰만 나겠냐?

띨띨한 새끼들. 소외받는 직업이나 챙겨줘야지.

소서는 왜 건드려가지고 이쪽저쪽 다욕먹고 있니.

아칸 3년간 고생했으니 휴먼도 3년간 고생하고 아이스패치 얘기 꺼내시죠^^

아직 1년도 안 지났습니다만?? 이제 시작이에요~

아이스 패치되는 순간 보이콧 아니면 접습니다 ㅎㅎ

소서러 4-0으로 패치하는순간 밸런스 망가지는건 한순간입니다.
지금도 아이스 걸리면 이동, 공격, 쿨 등 다 느려지는데...
올콘 소서러 생각만 해도 끔찍합니다.

Gm matt 한번이라도 각 종족으로 참가해보세요..
그리고 무엇이 문제인지 파악하시고 토론하세요.
밸런스부분은 민감한 부분인데.. 소서러 아이스만 패치한다는건 문제가 있어 보이네요, 이럴꺼면 너프된 스킬들 다 원래대로 해놓고 그다음 토론하세요.

1. Antidote item that can cure the poison effect of the skill of Rune Officator

2. Iceproof Pill that can cure the ice effect of skill Ice of Mage

Last version ICHIMAN i remember we got antidote pot in General Shop PV.

Now i dont know. But i think if make Iceproof Pill + Antidote item at General store better medals shop or Mall Shops. for free = Same as Break 4.0 no need thinking many.

can resolve many problem:

If GM put at Medals shop will got more problem is: Why so high medals and why not free like as OLD version?

If GM put at Mall shop will got more problem is: This game only for Rich kid and only purchase?

How newbie got medals for use and they also get ice and Rot from Top players and dead by Slowly...

18놈드라!!!
젓같아서 겜 접는다.
소서 패치만 해봐라
다같이 접을꺼다
18놈들.

Also make Death ray pass 4.0 pass flex thanks.

1. MK can dispel but why MK get AOE TS and KR BA is single target?
shouldn't it be the other way around?
its really important in big scale fight.
mk can immidiately fight within 30sec casting encourage and TS, but KR can't.
2. MK rune can go in deep frontline with patience pot and cast skill, with extra protection from flex.
KR sorcerer can't do same, when go deep frontline, mana shield can't be temporary protection like flex.
make mana shield undispelable.
3. KR lose in big scale fight because they can't play tank + dd behind like MK tank+ rune and gunner behind. Because tanker always dispelled and gunned down by 5x gunner.
make KR CON armor extra 150 def.

Your mean is TS better BA???

1/ So i'm thork and my team is MK team, so i wish i got BA not TS u know why???
Why not tell your priest so noob is 1st.

2/ MK rune can go deep why Sorc cant? Sorc cant buy Patience pot?? or u dont know that pot buy where??? are u really serouis when tell Sorc cant stronger than rune??? U know how many % about your class KR? and sorc. ( Rune good can chanter but can u see Rune got Faith??? ) u dont know. u just see KR lose because sorc neft ice. Win or no win. not only 1 class can do everything. if u come MK also feed and dead by others KR because u dont know everything about the game and your classs play 1 time Serouis.

3/ KR lose in big scale??? Ichman old sever when KR is lord u know? what Char is strongest??? u dont know. only 4 sorc strong. i only remember 1 name is HellGood is very imba sorc and pvp no scare anyone.

See back your sorc item, see back your style play and see back your knowlege and tell something better. when u really think it true. u can ask TS better than BA???

Each class good at something and u cant use it perfectly. dont blame for class. if all u guys only tell like that. how to got a good PVP??? good SW???

And Final

This POST is for Antidote so sorry all about talking for MAFUTO99 he know.

So back POST for:

1. Antidote item that can cure the poison effect of the skill of Rune Officator

2. Iceproof Pill that can cure the ice effect of skill Ice of Mage

Sorry and Thanks You

Who want compare what i make post and we compare 1 by 1.

Keep this post for GM and others Players tell opinion about Antidote and IceProof Pill

"Sorry"

BabyThork

you talking alot !!

btw do not compare Ichman server to this server .!! where GM to talk with your nice mind !! ? here got custom + S items . WHY KR not much sorc like MK many rune ? no need to type why because every one know !!
and you i hope leave player talk and post as they want. !! omg i no understand why !! or you scare GM back sorc like before !!

Thank you so much ~

ok let's talk and compare and die in my blade . noobs

I HOPE GM can fix RUNE Shacklle block by manacel ( Also 4.6 MISS)

And pls Fix ICE 1.6 also can Break Flex. i mean no effect and see many stupid can do what???

I will ONLINE 1 month 30days 9:00 MYT war and see who stupid talking what ? let at c1 and cry

Welcome to the world of ROW and RYL

Each race have advantages and disadvantages

All they need is to change the penetration of Ice (kr) and shackle (mk) skills

As long as there will be ice proof / poison pills. it doesn't matter
I just hope that they will put it in medal store w/ affordable price like "patience pot"



PS. TS is totally useless in war w/ chanter that can debuff 3mk w/ just 15-16sec. and also TS is used by templar in which the job will be in front line.

Stupid thork, what a bad english -___- I never ever cant get his point

아칸이 3년간 고생했는데 운영진이 움직이지 않은 이유는
아칸캐릭터 자체가 너무좋기 때문입니다 이말은 운영진으로 부터 받은답변입니다
3년간 아칸역시 무수히많은 컴플레인 메일보낸걸로 운영진으로부터 답변을 받았는데요
접는다고 이야기하실거면 말없이 그냥접으면됍니다
그게뭘대단한거라고 서베이글에 까지 쓰시나요
수고하셨고 장비장리 잘되길 바랍니다~^^

접으시는 분들 고생 많았습니다 얼른정리하고 떠나실수 있길 바라겠습니다